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Good for a giggle
April 07, 2010 08:35AM
Liberals, atheists have higher IQs

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Every day people are straying away from the church and going back to God.
- Lenny Bruce
Re: Good for a giggle
April 07, 2010 12:55PM
Well, I'll claim half of that............just call me Einstein.

Have you in NZ heard about the Tea Party movement in the US? It'd be hard to fill a teaCUP with the IQs at one of those meetings.
Re: Good for a giggle
April 08, 2010 07:42PM
Which half do you want, the Ein or the Stein???

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Re: Good for a giggle
April 08, 2010 07:53PM
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C Shell
Well, I'll claim half of that............just call me Einstein.

Have you in NZ heard about the Tea Party movement in the US? It'd be hard to fill a teaCUP with the IQs at one of those meetings.
Um no, we haven't...what is it? More throwing tea of the Boston docks?

Every day people are straying away from the church and going back to God.
- Lenny Bruce
Re: Good for a giggle
April 09, 2010 05:32PM
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Phunny Phoebe
Which half do you want, the Ein or the Stein???
Oh, give me the stein, every time smileys with beer
(actually the whein glass would be preferred)

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The Tea Party movement is a populist United States protest movement that promotes fiscal conservatism.
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After I spent the weekend at the Tea Party National Convention in Nashville, Tenn., it has become clear to me that the movement is dominated by people whose vision of the government is conspiratorial and dangerously detached from reality. It's more John Birch than John Adams.

Like all populists, tea partiers are suspicious of power and influence, and anyone who wields them. Their villain list includes the big banks; bailed-out corporations; James Cameron, whose Avatar is seen as a veiled denunciation of the U.S. military; Republican Party institutional figures they feel ignored by, such as chairman Michael Steele; colleges and universities (the more prestigious, the more evil); TheWashington Post; Anderson Cooper; and even FOX News pundits, such as Bill O'Reilly, who have heaped scorn on the tea-party movement's more militant oddballs.
Re: Good for a giggle
April 13, 2010 09:51PM
Nothing to add


Actually i liked it!
Re: Good for a giggle
April 14, 2010 02:50AM
C Shell

Is it a good thing to be a tea partier?
Re: Good for a giggle
April 14, 2010 06:16AM
Up here in Canada we like something a little stronger than tea at our parties. winking smiley. If you think that group gets bashed
in the US, you should hear how people refer to it around these parts. Seeing as how I'm a newbie to this forum I'll leave it
at that. smiling smiley
Re: Good for a giggle
April 14, 2010 12:46PM
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Wifey
Is it a good thing to be a tea partier?
In my opinion....
Not if you have a brain in your head and a heart that beats for the poor or anyone else who can't pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.
Definitely not if you believe the words of Jesus, and if you know that the love of God reaches out to ALL people.

It would be good to be a tea partier if you like to stay angry and riled up on a continuous basis, enjoy conspiracy theories (the wilder the better), and have a strong sense of your own self-righteousness.

of course, that's just my opinion....
Re: Good for a giggle
April 14, 2010 07:01PM
Isn't it just possible that having one or two conspiracy stories is healthy and reality these days??
Re: Good for a giggle
April 15, 2010 04:35AM
Shell,

I like your opinion. smiling smiley
Re: Good for a giggle
April 15, 2010 12:40PM
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Wifey
Isn't it just possible that having one or two conspiracy stories is healthy and reality these days??

Hmmm....like what? gimme some examples.
Re: Good for a giggle
April 15, 2010 04:47PM
I know!! I know!! --> My husband really believes this one...

Microsoft builds in small loopholes into their programs, so they can charge you to fix them or keep you buying anti-virus software. They (Microsoft and some anti-virus software folks) are in ka-hoots. Maybe there is even some sort of kick-back to the hackers in Malaysia who come up with the viruses and malware.

Not sure what I think about all that, but I am leary of Microsoft products. :-)
Re: Good for a giggle
April 15, 2010 07:36PM
@Theresa I am sure Onyx will agree with you on that one.

@C Shell, well for one....Global warming is a deflection of the hidden agenda of socialists to forward their governmental regime. (This is something I have heard from 2 sources. One a book written by an investigative journalist and another a geo-political analyst who writes papers on this stuff. In fact he went as far as to say the politicians and international governments that he prepares reports for are themselves convinced global warming does not exist but they want to keep their jobs.)

The book I refer to is called Eve's Bite, by Ian Wishart although I see that he wrote another book last year specifically on this topic - Air Con - got to add that to my library or wishlist now!!

So okay, people may or may not believe in global warming itself but to go as far as to say it is to hide a political agenda could be construed as a conspiracy - right?

Others may have a conspiracy about how the government is trying to dumb people down and treats them like idiots. (There is evidence that since 1970 there has been an educational movement here away from teaching children how to think to teaching children what to think).
Re: Good for a giggle
April 16, 2010 01:54AM
Wifey, you are going to be sorry you brought that up Hysterical Because Hubby (mine) just went off when I read your post and I decided to quote him here. *Typing as fast as I could.*

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Hubby Tim, scientist and creation care believer will now rant for you:
The vast majority of climate scientists, interpreting the data that's been collected over the last several decades, say that the world is warming, that's a scientific fact. It's an observed fact, that the avg global temperature has risen. The question is not "Is the world warming", it is "Is human activity causing or contributing to this warming?"

Scientists are generally a conservative lot. They tend to report facts rather than opinions. In particular the International Panel on Climate Change are the primary voice for the scientific community on climate change and over the last 20 years when they first began to collect evidence that human activity had something to do with it...first they'd say "we're 80% sure".... then later "we're 90% sure",,,,,the longer they studied it, the more conclusive the evidence was. That human activity, burning of fossil fuels and the deforestation of the planet have increased the CO2 levels to a percentage that's greater than it's been in tens of thousands of years. "how do they know, they weren't here then" --there's paleontological evidence like ice cores in glaciers, where tiny bubbles of air are trapped.. that's how they can tell how much CO2 in the atmosphere in ages past, and it has spiked with the rise of industrialization.

The projections for the effects of global climate change are going to be most detrimental to the poorest people on earth. As Christians, we've been directed to care for the "least of these". We have this majority of "wise men" who've dedicated their lives to this, saying there are going to be these effects and it's going to impact these parts of the globe this way, such as oceans rising, salt water infiltration in to the lowland ricegrowing areas of Bangladesh.....if there's a 50% chance that this is for real, and it's going to hurt these people this way, doesn't this fall under the "least of these"? Could it be that Jesus asks us to change? The rich (that's us, all of us reading this) are being asked to pay the real cost and consider what the impact is of our consumptive lifestyles which are founded on the industrial revolution & modern commercial development. Now that we have this knowledge, what is our responsibility? True Christianity, not what's being handed out these days, but true Christianity, encourages the use of reason. And that's what the scientific community is practicing: reason.

Scientific facts have been twisted throughout history to support certain agendas, but they always inevitably get exposed for what they are. There's a history to the scientific method. There are abuses, but it's a very democratic community and truth is its lifeblood. Once there were supposed scientific studies proving that certain races are superior to others. People have revised the truth, like those who attempt to create an alternate history saying the Holocaust didn't happen. Even if this conspiracy of socialists, this secret society exists, the scientific community has not been coopted by it.

At what point are we responsible? what level of certainty does there need to be that human activity is responsible for the observed change in our climate? Only if there's a 0% chance that human activity is causing this, are we off the hook. And the scientific community is saying that they are greater than 95% certain.

Well, I certainly learned a lot from that, and Tim says to thank you for giving him the opportunity to gather his beliefs into words.
Re: Good for a giggle
April 16, 2010 02:03AM
For me, the problem with believing conspiracy theories is what it does to your heart. They make your heart suspicious and cynical. They make your heart hard and calloused, stone instead of flesh. When you're expending energy trying not to get "taken in", it takes energy away from what you're really supposed to be doing...which I guess boils down to loving.

Observing conspiracy theorists and tea partiers......I see a lot of fear, a lot of anger. But I don't see any love.
Re: Good for a giggle
April 16, 2010 04:48PM
I would agree with all your comments Shell, if it weren't for the fact that when I went to check my email this morning, microsoft outlook had gone, awol. And all the contact infor in it. The microsoft conspiracy theories are looking plausible today. Sigh....Apple anyone???

I'm not one given to believing conspiracy theories, they tend to divert a persons energy from living in the moment and loving the people closest to them.
Re: Good for a giggle
April 16, 2010 07:16PM
I think there is a fine line between Pollyannaism and conspiracy.
Re: Good for a giggle
April 16, 2010 08:55PM
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I would agree with all your comments Shell, if it weren't for the fact that when I went to check my email this morning, microsoft outlook had gone, awol. And all the contact infor in it. The microsoft conspiracy theories are looking plausible today. Sigh....Apple anyone???

I'm not one given to believing conspiracy theories, they tend to divert a persons energy from living in the moment and loving the people closest to them.
Conspiracy theories aside, there are some scary happenings in IT, and Apple is shaping up to be the evil head that grew out of Microsoft. There is so much wrong with their business model that it makes the institutional church look free.

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Personally, I love this operating system...it's free in multiple senses of the word, and you can truly make it yours of you have the time and skills, or just use what is provided, and the community is huge and helpful. Viruses are no issue, stability is great, and speed is awesome. Of course I am biased because I am writing this from a professional's perspective; as a power user /techie/ programmer/ engineer it is difficult for me to assess Linux from a basic user's perspective. All I know is that every day I fix Windows issues for clients, knowing all too well that the issues are going to occur again...just the nature of using Windows. It's broken by design, in order to keep their industry churning. And that really gets me down because I am someone who is altruistic.

Regarding your data loss, Jon, your emails could well be gone, but it is an idea to get Thunderbird and install that. It can import your data from LookOut (usually, unless it's really trashed!), and keeps it's files in a fault-tolerant format that also makes it easy to move to a thumb drive or another machine, or Mac, or Linux. You are then not tied to a platform and way of doing things. Ask questions in the Computer Corner if you have any.

So whilst it is important that we are not to be paranoid, full of fear and insecurity, we should also not be naive, in realising that there are wolves-in-sheep's clothing, looking for an easy meal, and those wolves are greedy.

Papa also wants us to be aware of what is happening around us...I think here of the story in Judges 7, where Gideon was instructed by God to choose the 300 out of all the fighting force...and the attribute of the 300 was not how strong or courageous they were, but how watchful and careful. And how many times did Jesus say to look at the signs?

Every day people are straying away from the church and going back to God.
- Lenny Bruce
Re: Good for a giggle
April 16, 2010 10:05PM
Yes, Wifey, you guessed it, I have been called a Pollyanna a few times in my life. I tend to err on that side of issues.I think it's the way Papa made me, maybe to balance out all the conspiracy theorists in the world.

Strangely enough, I LOVE movies and books where there are conspiracy theories! They are so fun! And of course, art imitates life, so I know there are conspiracies out there. I just like my conspiracies to be backed up with lots & lots of facts, real true indisputable facts. and I refuse to live in fear and negativity.

Onyx you are so right about Gideon, and Jesus saying look at the signs. Also Jesus told us to be "wise as serpents and innocent as doves". What do you all take that verse to mean? I'm not being argumentative here!No<> not me! I'm a lover not a fighter!
Re: Good for a giggle
April 17, 2010 10:34AM
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Also Jesus told us to be "wise as serpents and innocent as doves". What do you all take that verse to mean?

A good question, Shell! IMNSHO it means: having the wisdom of serpents; the serpents know when to hide, and when to strike, they are the lowest, humblest of creatures, yet they can carry a pretty big "punch". They also don't let others tread on them! Having the innocence of doves speaks of our heart attitude; being right in our heart with our motives; working out of love, rather than fear/obligation/desire for reward. So I think Jesus was wanting a balance between the cunning action, and the right motives, to play a part in the minds of his followers. I think also that it is no coincidence that he chose snakes and doves; he knew there was an interplay of the old nature within us and his Holy Spirit. It may seem strange to say, but some of the qualities of the old Serpent were qualities that God imbued him with, and that are GOOD qualities (Genesis - God saw EVERYTHING he had created and it was GOOD), so as much as the SERPENT is our enemy, yet there are qualities that he has that we have, and those are qualities that are God-given; we should not shirk from them merely because the enemy has them! That's like saying because he is intelligent we should all be dolts Laughing (not saying anyone is suggesting that...just tipping some sacred cows from my own religious past!).

This is also, in context (Matt 10), at the same time as he gave his apostles AUTHORITY over the enemy, and a mandate for action.

Every day people are straying away from the church and going back to God.
- Lenny Bruce
Re: Good for a giggle
April 17, 2010 02:58PM
Let's take 3 systems: the corporate world, the government and the church. Maybe there are little groups of people in each of these, meeting in secret to plot evil. But I think it's more likely that the bigger and more powerful each of these systems got, the greater their need to self-perpetuate and self-protect. And at some point, the "powers and principalities" of the unseen world joined with the powers and principalities of the seen world. Probably not in an intentional way in most cases, probably more accidental, as the systems became greedier and drunker on their influence and ability to control. Each time they make moral compromises to protect themselves, it's like invisible threads form from the unseen world to the seen, and while they think they're acting on their own volition, that they're Major Players on the stage of the world.....they are just puppets.

I think we know this instinctively, that the evil one has control over our big systems. Maybe that's why we naturally tend to believe there's a conspiracy going on.

Right now in the US, satan is puppeteering in a big way, by pitting the two parties who each want to perpetuate themselves, against each other. False accusations of socialist and communist plots are making people angry and afraid, and satan loves it, I'm sure. Not that he cares which party is in and which is out...no I think he wants to perpetuate the system of hatred, greed, fear and suspicion. He thrives in that swamp.

And that's what I won't be a part of.
Re: Good for a giggle
April 17, 2010 11:21PM
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C Shell
Let's take 3 systems: the corporate world, the government and the church. Maybe there are little groups of people in each of these, meeting in secret to plot evil. But I think it's more likely that the bigger and more powerful each of these systems got, the greater their need to self-perpetuate and self-protect. And at some point, the "powers and principalities" of the unseen world joined with the powers and principalities of the seen world. Probably not in an intentional way in most cases, probably more accidental, as the systems became greedier and drunker on their influence and ability to control. Each time they make moral compromises to protect themselves, it's like invisible threads form from the unseen world to the seen, and while they think they're acting on their own volition, that they're Major Players on the stage of the world.....they are just puppets.

I think we know this instinctively, that the evil one has control over our big systems. Maybe that's why we naturally tend to believe there's a conspiracy going on.

Right now in the US, satan is puppeteering in a big way, by pitting the two parties who each want to perpetuate themselves, against each other. False accusations of socialist and communist plots are making people angry and afraid, and satan loves it, I'm sure. Not that he cares which party is in and which is out...no I think he wants to perpetuate the system of hatred, greed, fear and suspicion. He thrives in that swamp.

And that's what I won't be a part of.

Yep, you are right there...he thrives in fostering that division, causing strife. The master manipulator, able to guide man's avarice for his own devious ends. Nice post, Shell!

On a related note; [techdirt.com] what if money stops us being creative? Is this why I have no money ? winking smiley

Every day people are straying away from the church and going back to God.
- Lenny Bruce
Re: Good for a giggle
April 18, 2010 03:50AM
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We think that the more we pay people, the better results we'll get. But what if that isn't true? What the research shows, instead, is that the great wellspring of creativity is intrinsic motivation--that is, I do my best work for personal rewards (out of love or intellectual fulfillment) and not external motivation (money).

For me the key word is BEST work. I think that's true. I'll work harder and better for personal rewards and I bet you're like that too, Onyx. That said, I wouldn't get up every day and go to my boring job if it weren't for the money. There's nothing in my job that inspires creativity, so I have to invent stuff, like thinking up new, creative ways to remind people their payment is due. Or finding ways to help my colleagues in sales have an easier time of it. THOSE things reward me more than $$, but I wouldn't even be there at all if it weren't that they pay me. so it's kinda both.
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